Consider this:
- Genocide
- Concentration Camps
- Apartheid
- Ethnic Cleansing
- Torture
- Murder
- Execution
- Crime Against Humanity
Or don’t.
What happens when you do nothing?
You self-lobotomize.
Propaganda soothes and comforts. It reassures as it numbs. Sweet lethe.
Two of the most-effective military juggernauts in the history of the world have been intimately close allies for the last 71 years — the same number of years that I’ve been alive. Within three years of the fall of Fascist Europe, the United States had already established a solid geopolitical footprint in the Middle East. Kowtow or perish, risk your livelihood, your family and their future. Safer to do nothing. Ethnic cleansing proceeds more rapidly without an opposition, thank you very much.
The deal of the century: leave the premises and we will cut you a check. All you have to do is leave. This is a limited offer
I have a suggestion: Do not buy Sabra-brand hummus.
What? What? So, Bill, you admit to being an anti semite, a Holocaust denier, a Nazi apologist, a racist, a hate-filled troll, willfully ignorant, heartless, an enemy of the state, a useful idiot, a tool of Sharia Law, a mindless voice for jihadists, a friend to suicide bombers, a supporter of Hamas hegemonists, a Hezbollah helper, a brainwashed leftist, a reality denier, a criminal. And worse.
The United States of America ethnically cleansed itself of indigenous populations, decimated indigenous fauna and flora, massacred all the ancient tribes in their way, signed treaties worth their weight in non-negotiable twenty-dollar bills, supplanted every single independent nation with supremely White nice people. They killed or enslaved the otherwise-hued. But getting the job done properly required dark-skinned human resources from the “savage” tribes of Africa.
Another suggestion: boycott products manufactured in the United States of America. Prevent past and present war criminals from raping and pillaging the future.
Racism and Islamophobia are mission statements.
A Bloomberg Opinion: “It’s more important than ever to understand that restraint and dialogue will not bring Iran to heel.”
Who the hell should tell Iran to *heel*. Trump's unilateral (and enormously misinformed) decision to break the 2015 nuclear deal is some Strangelove shit. How many smuggly patriotic citizens even know about the severe sanctions imposed upon Iran for decades now? Trump also unilaterally re-imposed sanctions on Cuba, imposes sanctions on Venezuela. Suck up or die. Succumb. Resistance is futile.
False-flag operations have a proven record for effectiveness. Colin Powell held up that vial at the United Nations out of a sense of misdirected loyalty and a vow to duty. All the millions who protested the insanity of a war with Iraq did not slow down the Strangelove characters by a single minute.
What the hell is wrong with telling Israel to *heel*?
Thanks for reading.
billziegler1947 
You are right about killing animals to eat but most of the rest is confusing to me. People have been stealing people’s land for 2,000 years. Today immigrants take over countries without the need to have a war and are able to believe they can make their new land like the old one – the one they ran away from. Why didn’t the world intervene in Tibet, Crimea or Syria? For thousand of years the Jews are defending themselves and that seems to piss you off. I think this is an amazing little country the one you seem to hate and have never even visited or speak it’s language.
Bill hating is going to kill you – in my opinion.
Mike
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Thanks for the comment, I much appreciate your compassion for animals. Stealing land does indeed happen all the time, and it is usually followed by various forms of ethnic cleansing, those that remain seldom (ever?) receive reparations in any form — including our former slaves of course. Jim Crow lives and legislators do all they can to remove the rights gained in the 60s. Racism runs rampant and I understand that it runs rampant in Israel where there are no laws against it. The United States continues to break treaties with Indigenous people, they are still the victims of extensive racism, they are isolated in camps known as reservations. Oklahoma was called Indian Territory until settlers took over sufficiently to take even that small piece of sovereignty away. A big difference: the Palestinians are still in Palestine. They refuse to leave, I think you can understand that. They are not interested in receiving money in lieu of citizenship. Any two-state solution has been made geographically impossible by scattering three-quarters of a million settlers throughout the West Bank. The only possible solution is to grant full citizenship to all in Israel/Palestine Palestine/Israel. The alternative is ethnic cleansing, and the Palestinians continue to go on living despite all attempts to stop them from increasing in population. There are as many Palestinians as there are Israeli living in the geography known as the “Mandate for Palestine” in 1947.
As I recall, you’ve been known to get a bit hot under the collar on occasion — in my opinion. I understand that.
Yet, my best wishes to you and family all.
Bill
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First I appreciate you printing my comments. Most of what you replied I cannot argue with as I do not know too much of the history of your country. As far as the Palestinians are concerned since I happen to live here I don’t see a lot of knowledge on your part. I would have thought you would have studied the subject like you do everything else. Maybe it would help if I explain that when I got here 50 years ago I knew many Jews that still had Palestinian passports issued by the British as that is what this place was called – Palestine. This is not the place for a history lesson as I am sure you can find the truth all over the Internet. In my humble opinion history is full of transfers of people just like the 800,000 Jews forced to leave their businesses and homes in Arab countries after the 1948 war here after living there since the first dispersion of the Jews. I think we need to accept the fact that what, was, was and try and keep the lid on civilisation coming to an abrupt end. Maybe you should find a solution with Iran or Russia even North Korea. My forte is definitely NOT world history and those of you who write about the History of the Middle East should learn about it before repeating hearsay of made up facts. Let me end with the fact that old desert people because of a lack of water created a different attitude to life and death than what civilisations did that had abundant water. The reason some people are still killing their daughters, practising GM (genital mutilation) if in today’s Britain, stoning and cutting off people’s heads. When you understand that you would be more understanding of what it is to live in the ME. Let me start you off in a positive direction. Here is a link to an article by Moti Kedar: https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/analysis/dr-mordechai-kedar/mordechai-kedar-tribalism-in-the-middle-east-the-real-thing/2012/02/28/
Anybody can contact me through this link if you feel you would like more information on who to read in this very interesting part of the world. One last thing the West Bank is not “occupied territory” it is “disputed territory” as Israel took it away from Jordan who initially captured it in 1948 from what was the British mandate.
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Hello Mikel, I read and report on the marginalized: victims of the tyranny of the majority, those muzzled by more powerful sectors of society, those without a voice, groups unjustly stigmatized, the ethnically cleansed, racism, Islamophobia, inalienable rights denied, false witness, stones vs. drones, hasbara trolls, jack-booted thugs, gangster capitalists, fascists, Holocaust deniers, and a strand of anti Semitism that excludes “the other” Semites.
A few replies:
“This is not the place for a history lesson as I am sure you can find the truth all over the Internet.”
You can also find chum all over the internet.
“…when I got here 50 years ago I knew many Jews that still had Palestinian passports issued by the British as that is what this place was called – Palestine.”
It is still called Palestine by Palestinians all over this planet who have been denied aliyah for 71 years — diaspora.
“…800,000 Jews forced to leave their businesses and homes in Arab countries after the 1948 war here after living there since the first dispersion of the Jews.”
This is a non-starter, a deflection (well, what about those, what about them, what about anyone else). I should write a separate post on this topic. Hint: skin color was a deciding attribute.
Moti Kedar’s suggestion for an eight-state solution has already been enacted but as an 88-state solution, where the 88 borders are the patches of land between the highways that service the settlements on the West Bank of the Jordan River.
Shalom
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I just remembered you mentioned somewhere apartheid. Wow I almost let that go 🙂 Bill I lived in South Africa from 1948 until 1969 and witnessed apartheid from close up. Whatever is practised in Israel is not what I witnessed in SA. You will have to think up another word. BTW apartheid is still practised in SA but reversed. Maybe some sort of punishment for stupidity.
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“Of course, no one is talking about this, but in no other regime around the world is there one community next to another where the residents of one, referred to as a West Bank settlement, have the right to vote, while the residents of the other, a Palestinian village, don’t. This is apartheid in all its splendor, whose existence nearly all the country’s Jewish citizens want to continue.”
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-israel-is-voting-apartheid-1.7089338
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Wanting justice for the Palestinaian people does not make a person anti-Semitic. I have the greatest respect for the Jewish people and their history, but not for the methods of control used by the Zionist state of Israel against its Palestinian population. I’ve been to Israel (as well as spent years working in several regions of the Middle East) and I’ve seen the disparities between groups based on ethnicity and religion. The sad fact is that the state of Israel has contributed as much as any country to the destabilization of the Middle East. Whenever my conversations with Arabs across that vast region would drift to politics, their reason for disliking Israel was always the same: Israel’s genocide against Palestinians within its occupied territories. Talk about poor PR for the Jewish cause!
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A very thoughtful and appreciated comment, Henry. Firsthand experience from a trusted source (such as you) is the best. Although I have followed Palestine for a half-century, I have not visited the place. The Nakba happened when I was 8 months old, so I can pretty much associate historical events with what I was doing at the time — such as studying geography in 1967, the year of Naksa/النكسة/fubar when I was 20.
Genocide is ethnic cleansing. Not good PR by any measure.
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Where on earth did you study? I answered that and I am sure Bill will publish my comments on genocide.
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Hi Henry – well we have been doing an atrocious job of genocide. Whatever people tell you or what you imagine can be checked. Here are a few examples.
According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy, the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.
There is this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
Let us talk about the Arab (for you Palestinian) population that remained in Israel all 540,000 of them and remember one of the high managers in the Israel Electric Corporation (an Arab) listened to his family and moved to Lebanon with his young family but decided to go back to Israel. His son once told us at a lecture but has no idea how his parents managed to talk his wau back into Israel. Here is a link that seems interesting.
http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=386989
Bill isn’t an amazing source on “Palestine”
One more thing if you could convince Trump to swap with Bibi most of us in Israel would make you an honorary citizen (if you are interested).
At least try 🙂
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I quite agree, not an amazing source on “Palestine,” but Ma’an *is* indeed an amazing source. A tip of the hat to you, kind Sir!
“Launched in 2005, Ma’an News Agency (MNA) publishes news around the clock in Arabic and English, and is among the most browsed websites in the Palestinian territories, with over 3 million visits per month. Considered the main source of independent news from Palestine, MNA has become the first choice for online information for many Palestinians, and is also attracting a growing international readership and interest from prominent international news organizations and agencies.”
http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=386989
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This was an extremely well written post and I agree with it 110%. You have certainly NOT lost me as a reader of your most excellent work. I quite find that I cannot get enough of your writings Bill and that is a fact. I also love how you stand up for what’s right no matter what. Please, continue! And believe me, I am one of your most devoted fans!
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Hi Shelby, Thank you so very much for your kind and encouraging words. As you see, comments really do drive content on this blog. As you can also see, positive feedback gets buried in negative feedback on occasion. Mincing words (something I’ve never seen you do) doesn’t work, it only feeds a resolve by the already overly privileged majority to extinguish minorities (in POTUS parlance — losers). The prison system, actually our entire injustice system can now be expressed in two words: Jim Crow. And we now have a name for Fascism on the soil of the Neo-Confederate States of America: Trumpism. How big a jump from internment camps to concentration camps? Built in the shadow of a bigly apartheid wall.
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Bill, you really nailed this.
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Thank you, Jim. And thank *you* for https://jimoeba.wordpress.com/
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Editors nota bene: a response from Lisa, penned under my name 🙂
I can never ascribe hate to Bill Ziegler. Frustration and indignation -yes. When good people participate in systemic cruelty while effectively warming their soul by the fire of destruction, revenge and patriotism, onlookers are confounded by an overall “WTF” reaction. We Americans living in just such an atmosphere of nightmarish social regression and oppression are dumbfounded, daunted, horrified and indignant about the soulless brutality running rampant in our nation, states, and neighborhoods being fostered by a truly insane sociopath in the most powerful seat on the planet.
While we know the possibilities our wealth, knowledge and global presence COULD accomplish but we instead witness a weird Kabuki horror enacted as we hold a dagger to the throat of any and all comers who attempt enacting change for the betterment of humankind. We could reverse the damage we have all wrought and open the door to a Renaissance of Spirit, Nature and material prosperity the like our history has never witnessed. THAT is the teetering of our fate caused by the banal acceptance of “It’s always been this way,” False flag “crises” whip the unwary citizenry towards national defense and security. This macabre dance our nations enact is nothing at all new. In that you are correct. The stakes being anteed in this game are massive wealth and power unlike any before to be divvied up not between nations but between individuals not unlike our elected statesmen except much more discreet in their manipulations. The stakes those of us rattling these bones of contention over are no less than the continuity of life – ours and the myriad interconnectivity of species “Earth” from the level of oceanic salinity to the ability to pollinate the flora that mean life or death; feast or famine, varied and interconnective fauna or continuity of this sixth mass extinction.
This is who Bill is.
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Editors nota bene: a response from Lisa, penned under my name 🙂
Lisa wrote that last post about Bill! Makes more sense now doesn’t it?
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Editors nota bene: a response from Lisa, penned under my name 🙂
I should have led that last post with, “This is Lisa, Bill’s friend, and fan.
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Bill hi forgive me if this gets published more than once but I somehow cannot get it to display. Maybe it is too long?
Hi Henry – well we have been doing an atrocious job of genocide. Whatever people tell you or what you imagine can be checked. Here are a few examples.
According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy, the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.
There is this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
Let us talk about the Arab (for you Palestinian) population that remained in Israel all 540,000 of them and remember one of the high managers in the Israel Electric Corporation (an Arab) listened to his family and moved to Lebanon with his young family but decided to go back to Israel. His son once told us at a lecture but has no idea how his parents managed to talk his wau back into Israel. Here is a link that seems interesting.
http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=386989
Bill isn’t an amazing source on “Palestine”
One more thing if you could convince Trump to swap with Bibi most of us in Israel would make you an honorary citizen (if you are interested).
At least try 🙂
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Hi Bill hope you are all well.
Someone made a comment on genocide here and I sent a comment made up of links from Google.
I hope that helps un-confuse the guy that made the comment.
Have a very good school holiday Bill and Lisa
Mike
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Genocide, concentration camps, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, torture, murder, execution, crimes against humanity, and I’ll add flesh eating. And, I have considered. And, my conclusion is, these are the ways of men. Always was, always will be. But not all men, mind you. Only the overwhelming, overwhelming majority. Everyone from kings, queens, and politicians to that sweet little Aunt Bee in church every Sunday morning praying for the salvation of your devilish soul. And nothing is going to change. It will only worsen with time, as it has. But this is not to say that you and I offer consent and comply, far from it. If we can’t beat them, we sure as hell don’t join them. Despite all, my conclusion is that we can only but continue our resistance in the methods you suggest, and maybe then some.
Well spoken, Bill. Thanks for writing.
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